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FAQ - FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

 

Why are we doing this?

 

While hiking with a local outfitter, several people expressed a desire to get out more.  These hikes were started as a result.

 

What are the different hiking series?

 

There are four different hiking series to explore different themes…

 

Relaxed Hikes - Easy to moderate hikes of less than 10 miles with plenty of time to stop and hug a tree.

 

Hard Core Hikes - Moderate to strenuous hikes of more than 8 miles requiring a vigorous pace.

 

Path of Progress Hikes - Hikes to explore Pennsylvania’s industrial past, such as the lumber, mining, oil, iron, and glass industries.

 

Pennsylvania Heritage Hikes - Hikes to explore Pennsylvania sites of natural or historical significance, such as the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon and the Johnstown Flood.

 

Who can attend these hikes?

 

Everyone is welcome.  However, read the hike description carefully -- know your limitations and do not attempt a hike that may be too strenuous or too long.  Likewise, don’t expect a fast paced hike when the hike description indicates relaxed.  Not all hikes may be suitable for children – please use your best judgment.

 

What physical condition should I be in?

 

Each hike announcement will have an expected length and duration for the hike.  You should be able to walk for that far and that long.  No drop out points are available unless specifically identified in the hike announcement.  In general, these hikes can be on sometimes steep, rocky, root-covered trails; muddy patches and stream crossings are common.  If you are prone to falling or to breaking bones, have a serious heart condition, don’t like bugs, sweating or peeing in the woods, these hikes are probably not for you.

 

How many people usually go on these hikes?

 

There are usually eight to twenty people on any given hike.

 

Can I bring my pets?

 

The hike announcement will identify if pets are permitted.  Remember, dogs must be kept on a leash at all times.  Goats and llamas must be trained to a lead.  Parrots must agree to stay firmly on your shoulder and no profanity is permitted.

 

Where do we meet?

 

Each hike announcement will provide directions to a carpool meeting point and to the trailhead.  If you want to carpool, come to the carpool meeting point.  If you know you have to drive separately, meet at the trailhead.  Remember, if you join a carpool, you’re with that driver until they return to the carpool meeting point.  Make sure that you have all your stuff and that you know the driver’s intentions and schedule before he leaves! 

 

When do we meet?

 

Each hike announcement will provide meeting times for the carpool meeting point and for the trailhead.  Please plan to arrive early or at least on time so that we can arrange the carpool, sort out packs and boots, and as most hikers are quite social, greet others.  Please do not expect us to wait for you to arrive.  If you miss us at the carpool meeting point, you can probably catch us at the trailhead.  NOTE:  The driving time to the trail head that’s listed in the hike announcement is often the product of our imagination – please take it with a grain of salt.

 

When will the hike be finished?

 

The hike announcement will provide an approximate hiking duration; however, due to the unexpected, detours, and the general theme of stopping to smell the white pines and hug the hemlocks, the time we finish could vary.  Also, some hikers enjoy stopping for drinks and/or dinner and/or ice cream after the hike.  If you have a time commitment at the end of the day, that day’s hike will probably not be appropriate for you.  If you’re riding in a carpool, make sure they’re going where you want to go after the hike.

 

What if I’m a car pool driver?

 

Before you leave the carpool meeting point, make sure that everyone in your car has the same plan for the day as you do and that you have the directions to the trailhead.  Also, ask everyone in the car to make sure that they have their pack, water, boots, lunch, etc.  Please arrive with at least a half a tank of gas.  If you are fussy about your car, you may not want to drive since you will often have to transport wet, muddy and sometimes stinky hikers.  After the hike, and before leaving the trail’s end, make sure you have all your passengers. 

 

What should I bring?

 

Hikers should bring a day pack, water, walking sticks, any medications, toilet paper, two zip lock bags for used toilet paper, rain gear, gaiters, a light sweater or a fleece jacket (weather depending), a hat, a watch, insect repellant, sunscreen, sunglasses, extra socks, a plastic bag for picking up trash along the way, food and snacks, paper and pencil. 

 

All hikers should carry the following emergency equipment: a whistle, space blanket (emergency shelter), foam pad, small flashlight, first aid kit with whatever you are trained to use, small knife, matches, compass, photo ID, insurance card, and if you have a cell phone please bring it.  During hunting season, please bring an orange safety vest and an orange hat.

 

Optional gear would be a camera, film, guidebooks, GPS unit, pedometer, swim suit, and change of clothes. 

 

What medications should I bring?

 

Be sure to bring any medications that you might need during the day such as allergy medicine, bee sting kits and pain relievers (i.e., aspirin, acetaminophen, ibuprofen, naproxen sodium).  Under no circumstances should any drugs, including pain relievers, be given to or taken from another person.  If you are allergic to bees, make sure that your bee sting kit is easily accessible and that the hike leader knows where it is. 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

How much water will I need?

 

Reliable sources of potable water are usually not available along the trail.  Always, no matter what, bring at least one liter of water per person.  If it is hot, you will need at least two liters per person and some hikers will need more.  Many people carry CamelBak or Platypus hydration systems which allow you to drink continuously along the way.  You should also have water in your car to drink before and after the hike.

 

Why do I need a whistle?

 

Use your whistle for signaling.  One blow means stop, two means come to me, three means Emergency! Come Fast!

 

What happens when we’re on the trail?

 

When everyone is ready, and promptly on time, the hike leader will start cheerfully down the trail; please follow.  The hike leader knows where to go and sets the pace.  Please try to keep up but do not pass or “push” the hike leader.  If you don’t like the hike leader’s pace or style, then avoid going on future hikes with that leader.  In the mean time, speed up or slow down, be patient and try to tough it out.

 

For groups of eight or more, the hike leader will assign a sweep to walk behind the group.  For groups of fifteen or more, there will be two sweeps.  The sweeps will count us when we start and during the day to make sure that no one is missing.  If you need to leave the trail at any time, please leave your pack on the trail so that the sweeps won’t pass it.  The sweeps will be changed at lunch time.  Please stay in front of the sweeps. You will be asked to be sweep from time to time, co-operation is requested.

 

The hike leader will post people as required along the trail if there is a chance that those following could take a wrong turn, if asked, please stay at your post until the sweeps see you.

 

Should I stay behind the lead hiker?

 

Yes!

 

Should I stay in front of the sweeps?

 

Yes!

 

How do I know that the lead hiker knows where he’s going?

 

You don’t; but at least we’ll all get lost together.

 

How often do we stop?

 

The frequency and timing of stops is up to the hike leader.  Generally, we’ll stop after the first twenty minutes to adjust gear and get rid of coffee, the then we’ll take a quick pit stop every hour.  We’ll stop for lunch at about half way (this may or may not be at noon) and we’ll stop for snacks once in the morning and once in the afternoon.

 

How do pit stops work?

 

Normally the leader will stop and send the women ahead, after they have done doing whatever they do, they will blow a whistle (twice) and the men will come forward.  If you need to leave the trail at any other time please leave your pack on the trail so that the sweeps wont pass it.

 

How do I pee in the woods?

 

Ask your mom for details, but generally don’t pee within 200 feet of a stream, or where you can see standing or running water.  Leave no trace at the pit stops, no toilet paper, Kleenex, etc. 

 

What do you mean don’t leave any toilet paper?!

 

Double bag used toilet paper in zip lock bags.  Keep it away from your lunch.

 

Is smoking permitted?

 

Please don’t smoke during the hike.

 

What’s for lunch?

 

We will try to get half the hike done before we have lunch and there will be breaks in the morning and afternoon for a snack.  Popular lunch items are sandwiches, bread, cheese, sausage, and fruit.  Bring candy, energy bars (such as Power Bars), bagels, cookies, GORP, or chocolate as snacks and to munch on along the way.  Chocolate chip cookies often come in handy as bribes for the hike leader.

 

Do  I really need hiking boots?

 

The hike announcement will specify if you’ll need hiking boots and give a reason why.  This is not a joke – if boots are recommended, then you should wear boots.  You will need good boots, well broken in and treated for water repellency.  Boots do not have to be heavy, expensive or difficult to care for.  Modern, high tech boots called  “approach shoes” or  “trail running shoes” are lightweight, waterproof and perfectly fine for day hiking or light backpacking.  Ask your local outfitter for help in selecting hiking boots or shoes. 

 

If you need information about buying boots, visit www.Montrail.com under “Tech Info” which provides discussions about the foot, lacing techniques, boot construction, and getting a good fit.

 

What’s the big deal about socks?

 

Good socks are at least as important as good boots.  Unless you like blisters, leave your cotton socks at home!  Buy yourself good hiking socks.  Recommend socks are Dahlgren “Alpaca Hiking” or “Light Hiking”, SmartWool “Hiking” or “Light Hiking,” Wigwam “Tech 2 Hiker Socks” or “Ultimax CoolMax Cool-Lite Hiker,” or Thorlos “CoolMax Light Hiking.”  Remember to always bring an extra pair of socks. 

 

What do walking sticks do for you?

 

Walking sticks/trekking poles are like 4-wheel drive for hikers.  “Sticks” will help you cross streams, jump over mud puddles, brush away branches, and leap over rocks and logs.  They will also help keep you under control during steep descents, will allow you to keep a more normal stride over uneven terrain and will allow a faster pace with less effort.  Sticks reduce the risk of injury and tendonitis in knees, claves, thighs and hips by absorbing some of the shock that goes through your body with each step.  Sticks allow your upper body to do some of the work and reduce the load on your legs.  Always buy two sticks.  You will be amazed at the difference they make. 

 

There are many manufacturers of walking sticks/trekking poles but most people usually end up with Leki (www.leki.com) or Komperdell (www.komperdell.com).  When shopping for sticks, look for adjustable length, comfortable handles, replaceable carbide tips, and light weight.  The best handles are either cork or hard rubber.  If you plan to hike in rugged country, “anti-shock” sticks are nice to have for steep descents. 

 

(Source: Backpacker Magazine, Pole Science, December 2001, www.backpacker.com.)

 

Where do I buy, boots, socks, walking sticks, packs, whistles, and other hiking gear?

 

Hiking gear is available locally at Exkursions in Monroeville, Recreational Equipment Incorporated (REI) in the South Side Works, L. L. Bean at Ross Park Mall, and to a lesser extent, Dick’s in various locations.  See the end of the FAQ for more info about local outfitters.  Hiking gear is also available by mail order at Recreational Equipment Incorporated (REI) at www.REI.com, EMS at www.EMS.com, CampMor at www.CampMor.com, L. L. Bean at www.llbean.com, Sierra Trading Post at www.SierraTradingPost.com, Backcountry.com at www.Backcountry.com, Travel Country at www.TravelCountry.com, Moontrail at www.Moontrail.com, and ZB Sports at www.zbsports.com.  There are also a variety of discount and auction sites online.  Your hike leader and hiking companions are often good sources of information about hiking gear. 

 

What are the map references for?

 

Maps are useful for getting to the trail head and for finding your way home after the hike.  Everyone should have a Pennsylvania road map and a Delorme Pennsylvania Atlas and Gazetteer.  Pennsylvania road maps are available from AAA, grocery stores, gas stations, bookstores, drug stores, etc.  The Pennsylvania Atlas and Gazetteer ($19.95) can be purchased at many locations including bookstores, outfitters, K-Mart, Wal-Mart, and some gas stations. 

 

USGS 7½’ maps show detailed topography and can be purchased at many outfitters and sporting goods stores, downtown at J. R. Weldin Co., 413 Wood Street, 412-281-0123 and Pen-Oh-Wes Map Co., 336 4th Avenue, 412-261-0645, and are available online directly from the USGS at www.usgs.gov/ and http://topomaps.usgs.gov/. 

 

Pennsylvania State Park maps can be obtained by contacting the state park office.  Phone numbers for specific state park offices can be found in the blue section of the Verison White Pages, at www.dcnr.state.pa.us  or by calling 1-888-PA-PARKS.  Likewise, state forest public use maps can be obtained by calling the applicable state forest district headquarters.  Phone numbers for specific state forest district headquarters can be found in the blue section of the Verison White Pages or by visiting www.dcnr.state.pa.us.  The district headquarters for the Forbes State Forest is located in Laughlintown, PA and can be contacted at 724-238-9533. 

 

State Game Lands are administered by the Pennsylvania Game Commission.  A great variety of maps and other information is available from the PA Game Commission.  The PA Game Commission South West Region office is located in Ligonier, PA and can be contacted at 724-238-9523. 

 

Where is the nearest hospital?

 

The nearest hospital will be listed in the hike announcement. 

 

Are ticks a problem?

 

Ticks can transmit diseases to unwary hikers such as Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever and Lyme disease.  The ticks are common from May to September and peak in June and July.  The best defense is a good offence – stay to the center of the trail, wear long pants with cuffs tucked into your socks, gaiters, hat, long sleeve shirt and apply an inspect repellant to you skin and/or clothing (always read product label for instructions).  At the end of the hike, a full body tick inspection by a qualified tick inspector is recommended. 

 

What’s Lyme Disease?

 

Lyme disease can be very serious, sometimes resulting in severe, chronic and disabling illness.  About ¾ of cases of Lyme disease are diagnosed by the symptoms that show up after the tick bite, often beginning with a bull’s eye rash – an area with a red center and an outer ring.  Accompanying or following the rash may be fever, stiff neck, headache, body aches and fatigue.  For additional information about Lyme disease, refer to: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, www.cdc.gov, click on Health Topics A to Z, then click on Lyme disease; American Lyme Disease Foundation, www.aldf.com; Lyme Disease Association, www.LymeDiseaseAssociation.org; Lyme Disease Foundation, www.Lyme.org. 

 

(Source: Virginia Linn, Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Tuesday, August 7, 2001, www.post-gazette.com.)

 

Why does poison ivy make you itch?

 

Poison Ivy (Toxicondendron radicans) contains an oil called Urushiol that causes the skin rash and associated itching.  Urushiol is present in all parts of the poison ivy plant.  Spreading the oil causes the rash to spread.  The oil can be spread from contaminated clothing, pets, footwear, tools and equipment.  Once the oil is removed from your skin, the rash cannot be spread by touching the rash.  The oil can be removed by washing with detergent and water. 

 

Just because you’ve never gotten poison ivy before, it doesn’t mean that you are immune.  Repeated exposure is likely to cause a reaction eventually.  The best way to avoid an outbreak of poison ivy is to avoid the plant.   “Leaves of Three, Let it Be” is useful to remember, but many plants have clusters of three leaves.  Instead, learn to recognize the plant, and avoid it by wearing protective clothing, staying in the center of the trail and carefully stepping around the plants. 

 

Poison Ivy is everywhere around Pittsburgh.  Ask your hike leader to point it out and try to remember what it looks like.  Poison ivy can be a small plant with distinct ivy shaped leaves, a free standing, woody stemmed shrub, or a large, tree-climbing vine with large mitten shaped leaves. Poison ivy often has white berries.  “The Poison Ivy, Oak and Sumac Book” by Thomas E. Anderson, Acton Circle Publishing, ISBN: 0963937189, $14.95, provides useful information on these nasty plants.  For more information, go to http://poisonivy.aesir.com.  Also, check out the website http://www.poison-ivy.org/ for additional information.

 

(Source: Celeste Vrabel, Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Saturday, August 25, 2001, www.post-gazette.com.)

 

What other nasty plants might I run across in Pennsylvania?

 

Poison sumac (Toxicondendron vernix) can be found around here but is difficult to distinguish from its benign and ubiquitous cousin, the Pittsburgh Palm, also know as “common sumac.”  But the absolute worst plant ever, making Poison Ivy and Poison Sumac seem like a Rum Raison from Dave & Andy’s, is the vicious, evil, dangerous GIANT HOGWEED (Heracleum mantegazzianum).  The GIANT HOGWEED is native to Eurasia and is a member of the carrot or parsley family.  It is a tall, majestic plant that becomes established in rich, moist soils along roadsides, stream banks and waste ground.  It is know to occur in Maine, New York and Pennsylvania.  In Pennsylvania, the GIANT HOGWEED has been spotted in Erie, Crawford, Warren and McKean Counties.  GIANT HOGWEED is 8 –14 feet high, with stems 2 – 4 inches in diameter, hollow, ridged, with purple blotches and coarse hairs, leaves are sharply and unevenly lobed, approaching 5 feet long, flowering occurs from mid-June to mid-July, flower clusters may reach 2½ feet across, in winter, dead stems may remain upright, providing an easy means of recognition.  DO NOT TOUCH THIS PLANT!  If you see one, call the GIANT HOGWEED HOTLINE:  1-877-464-9333 (HOGWEED). 

 

(Source: PA Dept. of Agriculture, Giant Hogweed Flyer, 717-772-5209)

 

How do I remove my name from the e-mail list?

 

Simply e-mail Keystone Ramblers and ask that you be removed from the list. 

 

What are the group’s future plans?

 

We hope to eventually have a number of hike leaders so that there is a choice of hikes and hike styles at any given time.  Also, we hope to include short backpacking trips, cross country skiing, snowshoeing and road trips for long weekends of hiking at special locations, such as Potter County, PA. 

 

Will the hikes always be in Pennsylvania?

 

We hope to eventually have hikes in West Virginia, Ohio, and New York states. 

 

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